In June this year, the Dalai Lama visited Aotearoa New Zealand. Face Television took him to Otago University, where he recorded an extended interview with Lloyd Geering.
A meeting of minds, it was engaging and provocative as the two men have a lot in common.
Both come from farming families in remote parts of the world. Both have been accused of crimes: one of heresy and the other of political insurgency. Both are esteemed scholars who follow a spiritual path.
It was a singular moment in history, a conversation between two rebellious yet humble spiritual scholars.
You can watch this conversation on Wednesday 24 July from 8:30pm on Face Television (channel 83 on Sky).
You don’t live in Aotearoa New Zealand? Check the time you should watch it here.